Chat Transcript for Review Session 1

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Note that if it doesn't say who typed, then that's me (Grisha).

Hi is chat working?

Joanne Heywood
Joanne Heywood
Hi Grisha, yes, it's working.
thanks
Kim Yuskiewicz
Kim Yuskiewicz
Yes!
Joanne Heywood
Joanne Heywood
Yes, loud and clear, thank you.
jennie murphy
jennie murphy
I hear you
Dennis Fehling
Dennis Fehling
Good Morning everyone
jennie murphy
jennie murphy
a huge snowstorm here - the city has delacred a state of emergency . so I get to watch this live!!!
Barbara Sperling
Barbara Sperling
Good morning, I hear you
Dennis Fehling
Dennis Fehling
testing one 2 3
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Hello CBATIs!!! So great to see you here
Joanne Heywood
Joanne Heywood
Yes, the audio from the "Raw" is working.
Brian J. Sweet
Brian J. Sweet
My tail is wagging. πŸ™‚
Barbara Sperling
Barbara Sperling
audio issue
Kim Yuskiewicz
Kim Yuskiewicz
audio is not working here - it was and now appears to be stuck
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Audio is wonky
Suzanne Huijs
Suzanne Huijs
Audio issue: you sound as if you are in space. πŸ™‚
Joanne Heywood
Joanne Heywood
oooh.... a long mechanical noise now... not good πŸ™
Suzanne Huijs
Suzanne Huijs
yes!
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Ellen The Dog Trainer
whew
Dennis Fehling
Dennis Fehling
can anyone see my messages HELLO
Kim Yuskiewicz
Kim Yuskiewicz
good now - hello, Dennis
Brian J. Sweet
Brian J. Sweet
u fixed it
Suzanne Huijs
Suzanne Huijs
audio is great. πŸ™‚
Joanne Heywood
Joanne Heywood
It's cleared up now here...
Joanne Heywood
Joanne Heywood
I can hear your train! πŸ™‚
Dennis Fehling
Dennis Fehling
Thanks Kim..
jennie murphy
jennie murphy
hi dennis
Dennis Fehling
Dennis Fehling
I can't hear anyting
Amy Guyton
Amy Guyton
yes thanks for fixing
Dennis Fehling
Dennis Fehling
Hi Jeannie
Sara Marshall
Sara Marshall
Good morning!
Kim Yuskiewicz
Kim Yuskiewicz
space blasters are back
Kim Yuskiewicz
Kim Yuskiewicz
anyone else with audio issues or just me?
Kim Yuskiewicz
Kim Yuskiewicz
fixed
Sara Marshall
Sara Marshall
Audio is good for me
Dennis Fehling
Dennis Fehling
I cannto hear anyting or swee anything
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Ellen The Dog Trainer
good here
Suzanne Huijs
Suzanne Huijs
Here sound is good.
Kim Yuskiewicz
Kim Yuskiewicz
fixed
jennie murphy
jennie murphy
Kim I had it as well ...weird noise . I unplugged my own mic . Not sure if that was it but my audio is fine now
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Kim, hit refresh
Barbara Sperling
Barbara Sperling
audio fine here
Brian J. Sweet
Brian J. Sweet
Dennis, just left of the setting cog, you can increase volume with the bars
Kim Yuskiewicz
Kim Yuskiewicz
thanks Ellen - hit refresh and seems good
Dennis Fehling
Dennis Fehling
Finally got it...
Thanks Jennie!
And also note there's a mute button at the top
Amy Guyton
Amy Guyton
how is she with people?
I'll be fixing the screen next time so text and video is side by side
Amy Guyton
Amy Guyton
any reactivity with staff or others?
Barbara Sperling
Barbara Sperling
no mic here and the weird noise went away at the same time others mentioned.
No reactivity with staff
7:15 AM
all ok with chat?
Lisa Anne
Lisa Anne
I finally got on after technical difficulties.
Halla Brandt Clausen
Halla Brandt Clausen
I thought that the charging the clicker went rather fast for a dog who's not used to it. Was that to speed things up or the speed you'll use
Amy Tanna
Amy Tanna
Do you know if they did any formal temperament testing to determine reactivity, threshold, sociability, etc.?
Amy Guyton
Amy Guyton
is there a cue word that can be sub'ed for clicker if necessary?
Dennis Fehling
Dennis Fehling
Amy, you can use YES as another marker
Suzanne Huijs
Suzanne Huijs
I use EX for EXcellent. πŸ™‚ Sharp and exclusive word.
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Ellen The Dog Trainer
nice tip, Suzanne
Amy Guyton
Amy Guyton
thanks!
Mike Prasse
Mike Prasse
It appears you use a Look at That protocol first to charge the clicker, then go to Mark and Move?
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
Yay, I'm here!
Barbara Sperling
Barbara Sperling
Is there a reason for floor treating here?
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
I was tossing the treat on the floor because we wanted her to touch and move away and I wasn't holding the dog
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Ellen The Dog Trainer
helps to reduce working mode
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Ellen The Dog Trainer
or prevent
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
Yes!
Barbara Sperling
Barbara Sperling
Ah yes, was not seeing that with all applications so wondered if it was tied to the do following.
jennie murphy
jennie murphy
awesome job Laura !
Claire Anderson
Claire Anderson
Sophie is a DOLL
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
Thanks Jennie!
She is so cute!
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
She is:-)
7:35 AM
Barbara Sperling
Barbara Sperling
I appreciated the second helper feeding while she sat and had the leash attached. It happened several times during the session. Well done
Amy Guyton
Amy Guyton
I've had difficulty with mountain bikers that all of sudden emerge when we are hiking and Pepp wants to charge because she is scared.
Amy Guyton
Amy Guyton
she is very keen to other cues - but this one is a biggie and a barrier that I can't seem to get past.
jennie murphy
jennie murphy
toy brain πŸ™‚
Claire Anderson
Claire Anderson
It is helpful to see you teach the session via video, Grisha. I have a bunch of clients who live in CA (I'm in WA) and I do video sessions
Mike Prasse
Mike Prasse
You said to "click for engagement then click for disengagement", so click when looks at trigger and click again when does a Look Away?
Suzanne Huijs
Suzanne Huijs
What do you do with stress-signs, like lots of mouth-licking (just then) and fiddle-about. How do you look at that in this setting?
Sorry I meant click for engagement for a while and then after a time shift into clicking for disengagement instead
Thanks Claire!
For stress signs, in a shelter environment there will pretty much always be some. Taking a break is one thing we can do, also breathing!
Relaxing our own breathing is helpful
Victoria Gideon-Photography
Victoria Gideon-Photography
ahh sweet chill boy πŸ™‚ <3
Claire Anderson
Claire Anderson
Sound absorbers on the walls of the kennel
Good one claire!
Amy Tanna
Amy Tanna
Kennel enrichment! Food puzzles, DAP, scent enrichment etc. to reduce overall stress
jennie murphy
jennie murphy
visual barriers on the others dogs cages
Suzanne Huijs
Suzanne Huijs
Laura, did I understand it right that your walls are somewhat sound-absorbing as well?
Lee Morrow
Lee Morrow
Yes, DAP, through a dogs ear, blinds with sheets
Suzanne Huijs
Suzanne Huijs
O, Claire is tipping that as well. πŸ™‚
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
Amy, they do lots of food puzzles, DAP collars and scent enrichment
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
We have acoustical panels
jennie murphy
jennie murphy
practice the management pieces like treat magnet outside of the real event (i.e. no triggers present) and create some muscle memory
Amy Tanna
Amy Tanna
Laura that’s fabulous πŸ™‚ It looks like such a great shelter <3
Cindy Ehlers, CPDT-KA
Cindy Ehlers, CPDT-KA
volunteer to sit in kennel with dog. Create pleasant associations with triggers if possible?
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
volunteers have also worked on clicking for quiet as a dog passes by
And note that these ideas are not just for this shelter, but for anybody attending the course. So it's fine to suggest something they...
Barbara Sperling
Barbara Sperling
Is it just the visual as she walks by or the act of walking by knowing there are dogs in there
already have in place at Providence
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
They are a terrific group!
jennie murphy
jennie murphy
Barb (HI xoxo) she may know there are dogs yet when we take away the visual it always helps ...reduces stress some but ya she would know the
jennie murphy
jennie murphy
*there
Dennis Fehling
Dennis Fehling
Wow it's 8 degrees here where are they
Suzanne Huijs
Suzanne Huijs
"volunteers have also worked on clicking for quiet as a dog passes by". How did this work, Laura? Are the dogs more quiet overall?
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
Media, PA, we lucked out, it was a beautiful day
Lee Morrow
Lee Morrow
tech question (new at this) do I have to sign in somewhere special to have name by comments? I signed in to chat via vimeo/FB ...
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
yes, Director of Operations
Amy Tanna
Amy Tanna
We have corresponding outdoor kennels completely separate from the indoor, so we have to be cognizant of dog neighbors both inside/outside
Victoria Gideon-Photography
Victoria Gideon-Photography
Lee Morrow I see your name
Brian J. Sweet
Brian J. Sweet
Lee, we see your name. But it does not show to you. Same here.
Barbara Sperling
Barbara Sperling
Thanks Jennie, Hi xo
Lee Morrow
Lee Morrow
Thanks Brian!
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
Suzanne, ideally it would happen daily because the dogs change, so it helps but would help more if done everyday
Suzanne Huijs
Suzanne Huijs
Yes, I understand.
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
I thought that Pet Tutors hung above would help so that person passing with dog can use remote
Kim Yuskiewicz
Kim Yuskiewicz
love the pet tutors and SDHS has them installed in their behavior center
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Ellen The Dog Trainer
hang bowls of treats if no budget for Pet Tutors
Lee Morrow
Lee Morrow
is there any way to capture chat comments, I understand not avail later. but a way perhaps to catch it on our own?
I am copy/pasting them into a text file for myself. Right now that's the only way I know
Suzanne Huijs
Suzanne Huijs
Wow that would be great, the Pet Tutors. You could also hang them outside if you want the dogs to really move away from the passage.
Kim Yuskiewicz
Kim Yuskiewicz
is the fence line to the left actually shared with the homes there? if so, are there dogs in the home yards to be aware of?
Lee Morrow
Lee Morrow
Thanks Grisha
Exactly, Suzanne. And they're quiet
Great question, Kim! We didn't answer that in the session. Laura?
Barbara Sperling
Barbara Sperling
Inexpensive quick fix may be solid shower curtains on curtain rods. On outside of gate. easy to clean
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
Kim, good question, it is shared with the houses but I've never seen dogs right at the fence. There is one dog who sits on the porch and
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
he barks since the porch is high enough he can see over
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
but I haven't seen him in a long time
Kim Yuskiewicz
Kim Yuskiewicz
thanks, laura!
Teressa Hill
Teressa Hill
Would love to have the chat file from you Grisha.
8:01 AM
Dennis Fehling
Dennis Fehling
our internet is really bad here so i cannot watch this today. Hopefulyl we get to see the recording, have a great day everyone
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Thanks for joining us while you could, Dennis
Lisa Anne
Lisa Anne
What do you do with more energetic dogs who are always at the end of their leashes?
Thanks for trying, Dennis!
The recording should be up a few hours after
Teressa that's a good idea, I'll post it
jennie murphy
jennie murphy
lisa place items in the area like scented objects, food scatters. Grisha will talk about this
Lisa - what Jennie said. Also exercising first, smaller training area, reinforcement for attention to you.
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
Doing a training session, where the dog has to think a lot as well as puzzles before the setup can help as well
jennie murphy
jennie murphy
shake off could be from the excitement of the toy as well?
Claire Anderson
Claire Anderson
I know you recommmend a specific harness, which I think I see Sophie wearing. Would any back clip dog harness work?
Claire Anderson
Claire Anderson
Like clipping to the back ring of the wonder walker?
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
that's super interesting!!
jennie murphy
jennie murphy
did the live stream stop for anyone else?
Barbara Sperling
Barbara Sperling
still good here
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Ellen The Dog Trainer
YES! And BAT is all about movement.
jennie murphy
jennie murphy
refresh πŸ™‚
Lee Morrow
Lee Morrow
Claire, I have same Q, thanks for asking!
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
One question about having Sophie go with the Dog Trotters...if she over reacts when she sees a dog it might be challenging
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
so any tips for that?
Do the dog trotters go as a group
?
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
I don't think so
Kim Yuskiewicz
Kim Yuskiewicz
have had many clients that can run with their dog/dog reactive dogs and dog is not reactive. think that it could often be that the dog
I'm visualizing the runner just taking laps around that field you showed us
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
They could do that. The Trotters go off property, but maybe we could do laps on property with her
Kim Yuskiewicz
Kim Yuskiewicz
is more comfortable moving away from triggers at a faster pace but also think the "runners high" may play a role
with cones guarding the area so she doesn't have to see any other dogs. someone
or someone from the team
jennie murphy
jennie murphy
kim I too have a client who is a runner and the dog does not react. I have watched and she is in the zone of contentment!
I think it's both, Kim. How cool is neuroscience!?
Claire Anderson
Claire Anderson
I know you recommmend a specific harness, which I think I see Sophie wearing. Would any back clip dog harness work?
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Running as a Naturally Occurring Reinforcer. πŸ™‚
Claire Anderson
Claire Anderson
Like the back ring of a wonder walker?
Kim Yuskiewicz
Kim Yuskiewicz
love the neuroscience understanding we are gaining!
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
Claire, the Balance harness is nice because the shoulders are free
jennie murphy
jennie murphy
not for me Ellen lol
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Ellen The Dog Trainer
lol
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
Ugh, Grisha is going to make me job
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
jog
Kim Yuskiewicz
Kim Yuskiewicz
love running as an NOR - but like jennie says, depends on the learner!
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Running or not running, just keep in mind the Antecedent Arrangement as Grisha's recommending
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
yep:-)
Claire Anderson
Claire Anderson
Are there other harnesses (like available on Amazon) that would work? (Mainly for clients for ease of ordering?)
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
I wonder if we could use that with sheets for her safe space?
Kim Yuskiewicz
Kim Yuskiewicz
Balance is available on Amazon
Victoria Gideon-Photography
Victoria Gideon-Photography
if the leash touches my cattle dog he moves away from it or even walks sideways.
Victoria Gideon-Photography
Victoria Gideon-Photography
live stream off line it says...
Claire Anderson
Claire Anderson
Oooohh, good call.
Claire Anderson
Claire Anderson
On the small businesses
Kim Yuskiewicz
Kim Yuskiewicz
https://www.amazon.com/Balance-Harness-Buckle-Neck-Medium/dp/B01LVZVTP3/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=blue-9&qid=1579277824&sr=8-2
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
thanks Kim
jennie murphy
jennie murphy
victoria hit refresh
Kim Yuskiewicz
Kim Yuskiewicz
Link to Amazon but I try to encourage my clients to get direct from Blue-9 to support them!
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Love the trainer focusing on the dog "eyes on dog"
Cindy Ehlers, CPDT-KA
Cindy Ehlers, CPDT-KA
I use the Balance harness and also the TTouch Harmony Harness
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
tossing a treat and letting the leash go caused the leash to go on the ground so we had Carolyn have a treat in her hand
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
She would drop leash in one hand when she went to get a treat
Lee Morrow
Lee Morrow
TY for harness tips.
Refresh your browser if livescreen offline appears
Barbara Sperling
Barbara Sperling
Victoria, I've had dogs that are very sensitive to leash contact. I have to work on that sensory separate from training.
Lee Morrow
Lee Morrow
Barbara, thanks, good to be aware of that. I usually work with pitties... so not so aware
jennie murphy
jennie murphy
do you not like the freedom harness anymore?
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
She took a nice long nap after this
Barbara Sperling
Barbara Sperling
i love the perfect fit, my dogs bodies did not work with other's I've tried. Each piece of the 3 part system is body specific.
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Ellen The Dog Trainer
I'm reconsidering it due to the martingale feature on the back; i've seen dogs do better without that additional pressure
jennie murphy
jennie murphy
ty - i am so glad I had the chance to join the live version today. xoxo
Victoria Gideon-Photography
Victoria Gideon-Photography
Barbara, thank you for that any suggestion where to start?
Suzanne Huijs
Suzanne Huijs
Some dogs benefit from movement, but others from sniffing, right? before a session?
Kim Yuskiewicz
Kim Yuskiewicz
Thank you!
Brian J. Sweet
Brian J. Sweet
Thank you.
Teressa Hill
Teressa Hill
Thank you Grisha!
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
will we start inside next week?
Sara Marshall
Sara Marshall
Thanks, Grisha! Have a good day, everybody πŸ™‚
Joanne Heywood
Joanne Heywood
Thank you.
Victoria Gideon-Photography
Victoria Gideon-Photography
this was wonderful. Thank you so much
Lee Morrow
Lee Morrow
TY - really enjoying this. All the ideas.
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Ellen The Dog Trainer
Such a great experience today, thank you!
jennie murphy
jennie murphy
Suzanne -yes imo that would be dog dependent
Nienke
Nienke
Thank you. Wishing you all a great day. Here it's bed-time. πŸ™‚
Barbara Sperling
Barbara Sperling
Loved it, thanks!
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
ok:-)
Kim Yuskiewicz
Kim Yuskiewicz
laura, what about weather in Media?
Kim Yuskiewicz
Kim Yuskiewicz
Do you guys work outside in rain/snow/cold?
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
fingers crossed we get another good weather day!
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
might have snow on the ground
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
for this we will
Claire Anderson
Claire Anderson
For BAT in the city, does it make sense to start with the wonder walker and then move to balance?
Kim Yuskiewicz
Kim Yuskiewicz
stay warm!
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
thanks Kim!
Granie Dani
Granie Dani
well done!
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
we do have a couple indoor training spaces at Providence
Claire Anderson
Claire Anderson
Mainly to reduce pulling first - I know it goes against BAT 2.0, but in the city... you know.
Suzanne Huijs
Suzanne Huijs
Thanks! πŸ™‚
Claire Anderson
Claire Anderson
Ahhh, thanks Grisha!
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
Grisha has a video of Bean walking in NYC on a long line
Cindy Ehlers, CPDT-KA
Cindy Ehlers, CPDT-KA
Thank you!
Amy Tanna
Amy Tanna
Laura, just curious - do you know if Shelter staff temperament tested Sophie for threshold and sociability at any point?
Claire Anderson
Claire Anderson
Great, thank you so much!
Laura Harrington
Laura Harrington
they evaluate all the dogs. It turned out that Sophie was not feeling well when she first came in, then as she felt better behaviors showed
Amy Tanna
Amy Tanna
Thanks!