Grisha: Welcome! see you at the top of the hour

Jill Wattles:
Good Morning 🙂
3:50 PM

Dayna Villa
: hi!

Teressa Hill
: Good morning!
Grisha: Good morning
Grisha: Hi Dayna!
Hi Teressa! Hi Jill!
Victoria Gideon:
Happy Friday! So excited to here Sophie got adopted!

Dayna Villa:
I know! Such great news!
Happy Friday!
I’m so happy for her.

Stephen Bell
: Hi Everyone! Grisha – I have several questions, should I post them all now?
Sure go ahead. Ask them again if I don’t get to them.

Stephen Bell:
OK! I will post individually…

Dayna Villa:
And our first helper, Silas, went into a foster home which will probably lead to an adoption!
Grisha: If it’s helpful for viewing side by side, I have a separate page with comments: https://grishastewart.com/comments-only

Stephen Bell
: 1. Frequency of sessions – would you do more than one a week if practical and possible and how many would be too many?
Grisha:
A better system is in development

Wendy Dahl:
Looking forward to today’s review.

Stephen Bell:
2. Does the BAT 2.0 approach always generalise to other dogs beyond the helpers?

Stephen Bell
: For the frequency, I meant in general, not just in this scenario…
Grisha: you may be sitting for a while, so now is a good time to stretch. Of course you can stretch during the show too!

Stephen Bell
: 3. Is it best to change environments regularly?

Stephen Bell:
4. Does going over threshold necessarily set the dog back?

Stephen Bell:
5. Does it matter if the helper and/or dog are well known to the student dog?

Stephen Bell:
6. Should the helper dog be still or walking back and forth to start with?

Stephen Bell
: That’s my 6 questions for now. Sorry for the bombardment!

Vanesa B Vizuete
: Good morning!!! Buenos dias!!! 🙂
Laura Glaser Harrington
: Hi Grisha
Laura Glaser Harrington:
good
Caryl-Rose
: I used my couple of minutes before we start here to sign up for Michael Shikashio’s course!

Stephen Bell
: I am signed up too!
Laura Glaser Harrington:
Today is the last “early bird” sign up, right?

Teressa Hill
: So happy for Sophie!
Caryl-Rose
I think it is the last early bird day, right!

Brian J. Sweet:
I can already tell leash handling skills have improved a lot w/ letting leash out more. Good job!

Jill Wattles
anyone else have no audio?

Jill Wattles:
got it now

Lee Morrow:
Hi Everyone, very happy for Sophie and Silas! Grisha, you maintain your “zen” so well while out of the country and having tech gremlins!

Nienke:
A bit late. Apologies. Good morning, afternoon, evening from Chiang Mai again. :)
4:13 PM
Laura Glaser Harrington
: sometimes the leash tightens when the human goes for a treat.

Dayna Villa:
kk

Stephen Bell:
My q’s are at beginning Grisha
Laura Glaser Harrington
: do you think walking towards her, prompted her to move forward?
Laura Glaser Harrington
: Dayna is really good about her balance

Brian J. Sweet
: do you recommend doing a lot of “let’s go” work when triggers are not present, so it is more engrained and potentially easier to use when in a situation like this?
Laura Glaser Harrington:
this is my favorite learning moment of this session….allowing the dog to chose how they would like to self soothe, and paying attention to if the dog needs to self soothe, and adjusting setup
Laura Glaser Harrington
: noticing that she didn’t need to self soothe when she was further back

Lee Morrow
: This may not be the right place for this question so ignore if it isn’t. I have been forgetting to follow the link at the end of the sessions to save video to “my video history” is there a way to go back and capture that link? Do I need to rewatch the recording?

Stephen Bell
: Thank you so much for answering all those q’s Grisha – brilliant!!

Brian J. Sweet
: you mention, before, about doing some ‘tight leash conditioning’. Can you talk more about that?
Beth
How important do you think it is to keep the helper dog the same each session? Do you feel it’s more important the closer the dogs get to meeting?

Lee Morrow
: What is the average amount of space you look for to be able to do a set-up? Maybe it is dog-dependent?
Laura Glaser Harrington
: Emma took a thundershirt home with her
Laura Glaser Harrington
: yes it is

Lee Morrow
: Ohh! Thanks!
Laura Glaser Harrington
: Sophie

Suzanne Huijs
: Do you mean with ‘friends’ that they can walk together with still a little distance between them, or actually meet physically and smell each other?

Lee Morrow:
Thanks, I was thinking about trying to identify places in my community where I could start trying to work on/practice set-ups, just practice, not real thing, but learning what to look for. Same as places that are generally recommended for owners of reactive dogs to try walks??

beverly kramer
: You mentioned that this dog has explored the neighborhood on walks. What directives were given on meeting any other dogs on these neighborhood walks?

Dayna Villa
: At the time of adoption they were advised she hasn’t done well meeting too many other dogs so we advised against it. I believe Laura did give her more advice during this session- is that right Laura?
Laura Glaser Harrington
: I talked about the usefulness of “Find It’, practicing in the house then when she sees other dogs, but I wasn’t able to give her a lot of info

Wendy Dahl
: Not sure if you saw my suggestion of creating a quiet space using both xpens in the yard (to create a comfortable place) where Emma could sit with Sophie as Sophie enjoys toys.
Laura Glaser Harrington
: better when I was squatting down rather than leaning over
Laura Glaser Harrington
: we’re hearing you talk and audio at the same time

Jill Wattles
: Why is touching the paws a no-no?
Laura Glaser Harrington:
I think it also might have been stress zoomies…like she’s telling us she’s had enough
Laura Glaser Harrington
: again walking towards dog while she’s looking at a potential trigger pushes her towards trigger

Suzanne Huijs
: Could it be Caroline has been training a lot wit Sophie while she was in the shelter. I previously also saw great enthousiasm when Caroline entered. She might then be more focused on earning treats, then walking free sniffing? And this might be confusing her as well?
Laura Glaser Harrington
: 🙂
Laura Glaser Harrington
: right there, Carolyn takes a step forward and that makes Sophie rush towards trigger

Stephen Bell
: Would you then hold on the tight leash until she turned after the slow stop?

Stephen Bell:
If she keeps taking up the slack that is…
Laura Glaser Harrington
: that’s a good point about Sophie expecting that space means play with toys. What about toys causing increase of arousal?

Suzanne Huijs
: Thank you so much, Grisha and everyone there, for also sharing the things that did not work out this time. It is so nice to realise that we all make ‘mistakes’, cause we just do. 🙂 And to learn from for next time. You are teaching me to be more compassionate about mistakes. 🙂
Laura Glaser Harrington:
oops

Stephen Bell
: This is real life!!
Laura Glaser Harrington:
you guys are all so nice about our mistakes:-)

Stephen Bell
: We don’t want to see a perfect set-up…

Victoria Gideon-Photography
: I appriciate the flub ups, It helps to see what to do if that happens so thank you 🙂 <3
Laura Glaser Harrington
: not sure if we still have Dayna

Dayna Villa:
This is where we do playgroups- which she participated in a couple times,mostly without success
Laura Glaser Harrington
: Dayna, how long was she at PAC?

Dayna Villa
: This is where they can run off leash to play so she had a lot of experiences just running off leash in the space with a person playing with her or just watching her

Stephen Bell
: Did she do that with Emma?

Victoria Gideon-Photography
: Are there ways to teach your clients for muscle memory without the dog – sometimes training the client and training the dog can be confusing to the dog I think

Dayna Villa:
Sophie came in 11/23 and was pretty much there the whole time- with a short stint of getting adopted for a couple days but got returned

Dayna Villa
: Grisha ask your questions again please?
Laura Glaser Harrington
: I agree Victoria

Dayna Villa
: She has no experience in the field we will work in next time, maybe one walk through but likely was never walked there

Stephen Bell
: Dog goes upstairs in the background!
Laura Glaser Harrington
: I walked her there once
Dayna Villa:
Laura I am sure you were probably the only one

Brian J. Sweet
: Good, the whole topic of ‘introducing a dog to a new space’ will be good.

leashlassie:
Great session

Dayna Villa
: Her dad Simon may attend next time too!

Stephen Bell:
This whole experience is so fantastic Grisah and all!!

Brian J. Sweet
: Thank you.
Laura Glaser Harrington
: Thanks!

Victoria Gideon-Photography
: off topic – any idea what cities BAT CERT will be offered next year :)

Dayna Villa
: hahaha
Caryl-Rose
: Thank you! Great review session!

Stephen Bell
: BAT in the Uk soon I think?

Cindy Ehlers, CPDT-KA
: Thank you!

Dayna Villa
: Bye all!

Vanesa B Vizuete
: Enjoy your vacaciones ;)

Betina Sabinsky
: Thank you, great reviews….

Victoria Gideon-Photography
: Im Voting for WA or OR hint hint

Lee Morrow
: Wyomying and Michigan
Laura Glaser Harrington:
bye

Nienke
: THank you

Stephen Bell
: Thank you Grisha!

Victoria Gideon-Photography
: Thank you!!!!

Lee Morrow
: thanks everyone!
Grisha: Thanks everybody!
Here’s the link for finding a CBATI: https://grishastewart.com/cbati